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    Heidi: the concept of time? what is it?

    Andrew MacDonald to Everyone:
    saving the world is time consuming I find 🙂

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    skreutzer
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    My interpretation, maybe arriving at Einstein or not: there’s energy, and energy moves stuff (trying to balance itself, colliding, etc.). Those movements are irreversible because the process is chaotic and complex, you can’t get things back into place that want to diverge and found new stable states except with incredible amounts of energy, that then would lack elsewhere and exceed the initial diverging energy, so it’s not the same anyway because undoing time (the movement of things), doing the events/processes in reverse, wouldn’t need the same amount of energy, but more, so it wouldn’t be the same. So with things happening as result of reactions, how they develop depends a whole lot on random chaos and complexity, so you can’t all of them back into reverse movement in the exact same way. Additionally, we lack the control of influencing all those movements and complex micro and macro happenings/developments, additionally as they’re all result of what happened/developed before, so at some point there might be one minor tiny thing we can’t influence (in practice because of being bound to developments of energies ourselves). So this, in my mind, is why time is one-way, why we can’t travel back. As long as things move, there is “time” as we can identify a previous and a later state. If energies stop to exist or balance themselves, things wouldn’t move any more and we would be completely unable to tell if or how much time has been passed, so we can ask if time exists at all. So what time actually, really is, as far as we’re concerned, is the speed of light, how a particle that’s barely matter and on the convergence to wave and energy (moving without loss of energy? Didn’t think too much about it for this short thought dump) can move the fastest we know and can imagine, and the slowest Planck time where we can’t observe any movement below it, because movement or energy (state) changes below that probably don’t happen or are insignificant in terms of the “grid” of physical matter, where the most atomic physical matter element breaks down into it’s always-shivering “noise” Heisenberg/Schrödinger quants, where we’re probably back at energy that because of it’s existence/presence comprises pieces of physical matter that preserve themselves instead of collapsing and falling apart. Like 0 Kelvin, if there’s no energy/heat, things/time stands still as there is no movement or change in state, you can’t move less than not moving. If the movement becomes too much, matter breaks apart by either increasing resistance or by exiting the state of matter and entering wave/energy forms. So space, matter, time and energy might be pretty much the same or closely interrelated, which is why black holes are interesting as instances where the “grid” collapsed, because as we were able to discover/observe one, their existence might teach us a whole lot about the question what time is or might be, because they’re also eating the light for interesting reasons.

    Therefore, I wonder if time as such exists at all, it might only be a matter of fact or effect as a result because some energy things are going on, but we could imagine worlds or places where no energy exists (let’s have a look at the universe…, just saying…) or where things don’t move, or where things/energies behave in ways that are entirely different than what we know (or maybe matter that’s not based on energy?). Time doesn’t really exist except for the observation that we didn’t find or know about something without it (our ability to observe anything means that we’re present as matter comprised or a result of energy, which means that observing the time-/energy-less instance might be a little hard, if not impossible, if it exists or can exist, timelessness, but that means that there can’t be energy- and matterlessness that leads to other interesting implications), so time “exists” or we have the impression as a result of energy being existent/present.

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    skreutzer
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    Time is the distance things can move, depending on the nature of energy and how it wants to balance. There is only the always-present of the state of things, and if we let energies move, that’s how the only future becomes reality/present, and the “past” is a certain present of states we can’t get to again (not “back”, but to it a second time) because the current, present arrangement of states of energies doesn’t let us.

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